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Forums / Restoration / Fwd Berth -Yankee vs O'Day  
The discussions for this thread include the following:

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 at 7:45am
I am trying to figure out how Yankee fitted the forward berth so far forward. If you look in the picture below, the Yankee is the top boat, and the O'Day is the bottom.

At first glance, it looks like the Yankee berth is at least a foot shorter, and the bulkhead between the head and the berth would go right through the forward deadlights.

I like the arrangement though as it puts the head in a more private area as well as provides for what seems to be a larger hanging locker down below, and probably more compression support for the mast above.

Thanks for any insight

Posted: 18 Feb 2010 at 2:13pm
In my Yankee, the forward bulkhead does land in the middle of the forward portlights. The bulkhead is cut away slightly at the portlight, and is attached to the deck above and below it.

The v-berth in my boat goes all the way to the stem, while it looks like the O'Day has a small bulkhead forward, for a chain locker. (?) So losing a foot or so for the head is actually not as big a sacrifice as it might appear.

In my opinion, the "hanging locker" opposite the head in the standard Yankee is so small as to be nearly useless. I'm thinking to retrofitting mine with drawers or shelves instead.

Erik Evens
Los Angeles, CA
"Robin Lee", Yankee Dolphin #118

Posted: 18 Feb 2010 at 3:27pm
Thanks Erik,
Is the berth mounted higher so that you have more foot room at the peak?

The boat is wider at the deck than on the waterline, and goes forward at the stem so you would probably have more leg room with a higher berth at the expense of head room.

Thanks again
- Jim

Posted: 18 Feb 2010 at 4:44pm
The berth is at a comfortable sitting height above the cabin sole - about 16"-18" or so.

Erik Evens Los Angeles, CA "Robin Lee", Yankee Dolphin #118

Posted: 18 Feb 2010 at 5:02pm
BTW Jim - which boat is yours? Are you rebuilding the interior?

Erik Evens
Los Angeles, CA
"Robin Lee", Yankee Dolphin #118

Posted: 19 Feb 2010 at 2:23pm
I have a 1962 O'Day named Tiki that is in "process", and the interior does need to be replaced. At this point, the forward berth has been removed, and it seems like a good time to look at options. I like the idea of putting the head forward, and using the space to install a small table.

By the way, thank you for the pictures and the info.


Posted: 19 Feb 2010 at 5:53pm
Hi Jim
Your exchange with Erik has forced this reply - 2-3 months earlier than planned.

We are restoring Passage, O'Day #10. The interior in the main cabin and forward cabin has been completely removed with only the main bulkhead in place. The concept is to have a simple daysailer setup, with the possibility for cruising. The plan is to have the v-berth disappear and become instead a forward cabin with a head (hidden0, sail storage, a sink with work space, and a small pull out/down galley with storage - some details still to be worked out.

The now open bulkhead will be closed in and a proper (possibly a sliding type) oval shaped door on the port side.

The main cabin will be two settees with a 'open bench type' slat backrest, storage behind and 2 shelves above. These settees will convert to a single/double bunk on the starboard side and a single on the port side - storage under both. No hanging locker - a table system is still under study. The 'fridge will be a portable cooler under the steps. There will be no change in the quarter berths set up.

The companionway steps will be replaced with a Marionette type steps system and a set of lockers built into/below the bridgedeck.

I will get concept pictures and sketches up shortly on Passage's page on the website

Marionette, #12

Posted: 20 Feb 2010 at 6:47am
Hi Ron,
Tiki's under cover, and the weather is just starting to get to the point where I could contemplate working on her again. Plus I came across a site called lackeysailing dot com with great narrative and photographic record of several rebuilds - including both a Shields 33 and Triton conversion to daysailer.

All these caused my mind to wander, and I apologize for the unintended push!

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